NOT EVEN MAD

A JOYFUL DISAGREEMENT

Not Even Mad is a weekly 1-hour podcast dedicated to a joyful disagreement. The 3 hosts: Mike PescaVirginia Heffernan, and Jamie Kirchick address issues from different political perspectives, but they wear their ideologies loosely and are just as likely to disagree with established doctrine as with each other. Mike conceived this podcast as a remedy to other news and opinion shows that offer only agreeable dialogue among hosts and guests. There are no shows which offer well-rounded, informed discussions among an established set of panelists who express multiple viewpoints, allowing the listener to identify the strongest arguments as they’re being battle-tested.

HERE'S A PLATTER OF SHOW CLIPS

Trailer
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Goat Grinders
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Cancel Court
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mostly a moderate

Mike is the host of the podcast the Gist, the longest running daily news podcast (8+ years). He is a former sports reporter and producer for NPR, and previously worked for Slate. He is author of the book “Upon Further Review: The Greatest What-Ifs in Sports History”.

largely of the Left

Virginia is a columnist for Wired, and was the host of such podcasts as Trumpcast and This Is Critical. She is the author of "Magic and Loss" and a Substack of the same name.

Generally of Center-Right

Jamie is the New York Times bestselling author of Secret City: The Hidden History of Gay Washington and a columnist for Tablet Magazine.

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CANCEL COURT

When someone is punished for transgressions against norms, real or imagined, they are said to be “canceled”. But who is to say whether the cancellations are real, permanent, logical or fair? No one — until now. Every week, the Justices of Cancel Court assemble to decide on the cancellations of the day, under rules of evidence and precedent, in the only segment recognized by the American Bar Association as “Not Actually A Thing”, and the Federalist Society as “Please Direct All Inquiries to our Help Desk.”

THE TEAM

Joel Patterson
Senior Producer
Michelle Hunter Pesca
COO Peach Fish Projects